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True true. But can't you just keep using that logic all the way back?


Depends on when you bought. Of course it's not useful if you're trying to outsmart the market.


You don't have to go far back but yes, its not infallible logic.


Obviously Google doesn't place values over profits. Let's be brutally honest here. Nor do the employees.

Are the employees that make $200,000/year donating the extra income to those in need or are they buying things to engage in lifestyle inflation like most people? Are they going to quit Google and work for a non-profit?


Probably not Facebook. Just check out this interaction between a NYT journalist and them.

https://twitter.com/sheeraf/status/1065988154308538368


Legends speak of one called Tom: a great Entrepreneur of old, taken away to sleep in a secluded space of his own, who will one day wake and return to social media in our time of direst need.


Tom is my friend. Tom is all our friends.


Ironically your comment indicates that you are in a bubble. You reflexively dismissed them by saying "red pill", which is precisely what your bubble tells you how to react to anything that says "Jordan Peterson".

That's not your own thought and it's not an honest or meaningful rebuttal to the OP. Take your own advice by watching some full length Peterson lectures with an open mind. You may find that you've been mislead.


Personal attacks like this are totally unacceptable on HN. I've banned this account.

It's also unacceptable to use HN primarily for ideological warfare.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I've seen his videos. I've even read one of his books and saw him speak in London on his book tour. Every interesting point he raises is overshadowed by his pseudoscience chaos is feminine and order is masculine nonsense.

He is sexist. His work espouses sexism.

> That's not your own thought

But please, tell me more about what goes on inside my own head.


He doesn't discriminate against men or women. There is no evidence of that in his hundreds of hours of lectures or interviews or books.

His wife and daughter would also disagree with the sexist claim. As well as his many female patients who he has helped with their careers.

> But please, tell me more about what goes on inside my own head.

I didn't mind read. You literally typed out a common dismissal. The sexist comment is also that.


"It's a very rare woman who at the age of 30 doesn't consider having a child her primary desire. And the ones that don't consider that, generally in my observation there's something that isn't quite right in the way that they're constituted or looking at the world." - Jordan Peterson[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV2yvI4Id9Q&t=7m30s


yes, generally in his observation as a clinical psychologist for decades thats what he sees

right after that he says there are some women who not maternal


Thanks for the example. Let's break that down.

"It's a very rare woman who at the age of 30 doesn't consider having a child her primary desire."

Evidence shows this to be the case. It is rare.

"And the ones that don't consider that, generally in my observation there's something that isn't quite right in the way that they're constituted or looking at the world."

I see how that sounds sexist, but he says the same thing about men that don't want kids. It's also important to note that he qualifies the statement as "generally", not as a rule. Acknowledging there are exceptions. It's not the case for everyone.

He says that men are misguided for prioritizing work or money over kids. He actually makes the point that women are better at recognizing what leads to happiness, fulfillment and meaning. Which is family. That's his understanding based on decades of observation and research. But again generally speaking and there are exceptions.


It makes sense to base things on probabilities, but it also makes sense to play it safe in some cases.

The upside of it predicting him/her is minor and doesn't outweigh the times that it gets it wrong.

"Do you want to meet [name || them]" or simply "Do you want to meet" works well enough usually.


What does that mean? What will they say or do to the family?


China regularly makes people disappear. They are the epitome of a 1984 style totalitarian state: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/25/asia/fan-bingbing-china-opini...



> Telling a laid-off auto worker to switch industries is not a very fair thing to do.

But we do that all the time and with good reason. Blockbuster employees and coal miners for example. At some point the jobs no longer make sense.


You're right, except then they support destructive politicians that says the reason they don't have a job in coal anymore is because of "scapegoat of the day" (global warming lies? the EU? Immigrants? not killing puppies?)


"At some point the jobs no longer make sense."

Blockbuster disappeared because the technology it was built upon became obsolete. It also didn't require specialized labour skills - the employees just took their retail experience across the street.

This just seems like a different kind of situation to me. Automotive isn't going anywhere, GM just couldn't perform.

edit: I'm reading some other comments about drive trains and EVs & reduced manufacturing requirements due to it. That's interesting. Maybe I should read about this more


Too bad we didn't call their bluff, and especially that of the banks, and put the bailouts into infrastructure or new industry to replace those jobs and put us in a better position for the long term.


> HERE is a trivia question for you: what is the most profitable business in the world? You might think oil, or maybe banking. You would be wrong. The answer is academic publishing. Its profit margins are vast, reportedly in the region of 40 per cent.

Interesting. Does anyone know what the volume is like?


Make no mistake, anyone born into an advanced country is privileged. We are very privileged and lucky compared to someone born in the Congo.

Beyond that it seems rather meaningless to attribute success to privilege over a multitude of other factors. It helps, but it's not the main component. Indeed those with the most privilege tend not to do so well. Consider rich kids who turn into generally unsuccessful adults. Clogs to clogs in 3 generations. The opposite of success.

Meanwhile you have people like JayZ who started among the least privileged (relative to the country) becoming one of the most privileged.

As for Gates, he had the drive and interest to spend his time learning how to program and explore business while he was a kid. While most of his peers were likely using that time to watch TV or party. That's an essential difference and no amount of privilege is going to bridge that.


> Make no mistake, anyone born into an advanced country is privileged.

Privilege is not binary, being born into a rich family gives you a massive amount of privilege that being born into the lower class doesn't regardless of how we compare with other countries. So your point here, is rather missing the point entirely.


Privilege is a useless (for non political purposes) lens to view people through, so don't even grant the idea of privilege by birth country.


>As for Gates, he had the drive and interest to spend his time learning how to program and explore business while he was a kid. While most of his peers were likely using that time to watch TV or party. That's an essential difference and no amount of privilege is going to bridge that.

Dude his drive and interest was solely determined by his physical appearance aka the fact that he considered himself ugly. If gates could choose he would have been a good looking tv watching party chad. But he was an uggo so he statusmaxxed instead.


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