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Despite these disruptions, the company is unparalleled from a profit-per-employee perspective. Craiglist's network effect may have reached its limit, but the company will continue to make huge profits. They clearly favor maintenance over product development, but that doesn't diminish their status as a profit-per-employee anomaly.



Thanks, good links in the blogroll as well, appreciated.


He didn't say he was sorry. He just said he will stop.


Exactly my point. He's sorry that he got called out, nothing more.


He didn't get called out. He got harassed excessively. People with no interest in a language they've never heard of suddenly began venting irrational rage at a guy for suggesting that a language article might not be notable.

The solution to a wiki page being marked AfD is to improve the article with useful citations or discuss why the current citations are enough to verify the article.

It's not to stalk both online and offline the person who suggested a discussion should be had on the notability of a topic.


So? Isn't the most important thing that he's stopping?


The important thing would be restoring the articles. As far as I can see, that isn't happening (yet).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_(programming_language) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemerle

I might just be seeing a cached version, though.

edit: grr, I cannot reply to you, but yes, that was my point exactly: he could request a deletion review.


Chris is just another Wikipedian though. He has the same ability to undo the changes as you do.


He's not "just another Wikipedian", he's the particular Wikipedian that made this mess. So he has a particular responsibility to clean it up.


Ahem... Let me rephrase my above comment. Anything Chris can do, you can do. Perhaps rather than complaining about who "should" clean it up, you can actually do it yourself?


I repeat myself, but: "The damage is already done."


You're not interested in an apology... You don't care that he stopped.

What exactly do you want from him then?


I am interested in an apology. He has not given one, despite this so called "reversal".

A sincere apology would involve 1) apologizing/admitting wrong-doing and 2) undoing the damage. I could certainly settle for only the second.


Re your 2: it's not really up to Monsanto to restore the deleted articles. It's not his call, and if it went through Afd once, to recreate the articles would be to see them get redeleted.


But why would he apologize? He sees himself as following the letter of the law, and points out that if this is an issue, change the law.

Honestly this sounds like 2 things - A cry of help from Wikipedia stating they need concerted outside help/force to fix something they can see is broken/can be improved

A lawyer saying that its not his fault the rules are what they are.


perhaps you missed a little sarcasm


I don't come to HN for sarcasm, I am bad at it (online) anyway.


I see geeks at Rudy's Pub in downtown Palo Alto every time I'm there.


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Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely consider that.

--Update--- I switched to smaller icons. It looks somewhat misaligned but it's a good start.


Much better! I think the icons add little value really, they could be even smaller, or even leave them out.


I'm using Twilio. The API just works. Haven't tried Tropo, though.


tropo's got an unlimited free dev account. you might want to build something that could abstract the calls to either and switch between them as need be (twilio restructured pricing recently, tropo may do the same, etc).

I did something like this some time ago, before twilio (or at least before I knew of them) and may revisit this basic idea at some point.

good work :)


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