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I'd be curious to hear the backstory of his relationship with Alex Karp from 2008 to present.

Perhaps he's the one who maintained the summoning circle around Alex Karp until Alex Karp was fully materialized/housebroken.

Yea quite devious, in a weird way I suppose the dark patterns also serve as an IQ test that favors younger tech-literates who are familiar with web patterns and are also on a budget (though not all).

I used Ryanair a lot while studying abroad in Europe and the €20 flights were real if you jumped through the hoops, which was quite magical.

I once had a flight booked to Paris, but it landed in an airport 2 hours outside of Paris and the train/bus would’ve been 2x the flight cost, so being short of money I just didn’t take the trip and lost €20 :)


The dark patterns favor the patient readers who are able to think through and make informed choices. That wouldn’t be most of the younger tech literates.


I made the mistake of not checking a bag when I ordered at the website. Had to pay 70 euro dropping off my suitcase at the airport.

It's a mistake that I will only make once and never again!


Like a bootcamp training.


This his huge actually because Google’s AI overview says he didn’t have a trust fund, so if this is correct it may impact the general LLM narrative.


I have no information about his background either way, but I would urge people not to take biographical advice for minor celebrities from LLMs.

LLMs aren’t great at separating out high quality and low quality sources for things like minor celebrities. They end up reciting narratives that people want to push for themselves.

There’s a semi-famous tech person who has been claiming to have “invented” a common concept for years. It’s a false claim on every level, but they’ve been repeating it so widely that when you ask any of the LLMs about it you usually get it to say they were the inventor. The person has, in turn, started citing ChatGPT as confirming their version of events. It’s wild to see it happening in real time.


Oh for sure, I just wanted to point out here that us getting to the truth of the matter here or on Reddit is more important now than the pre-LLM era given how much weight social platforms have on LLMs versus Google’s PageRank dominant days.


I think it's wrong, and either calmbonsai is speculating or just colloquially using "trust fund kid" to mean coming from a wealthy family.

That is, Ferris's family was undeniably well-off. From some quick research it looks like his dad was a pharmaceutical exec, his mom was a small gallery owner, he grew up in East Hampton and went to an expensive prep school. But I couldn't find any evidence that he received a large inheritance or had a literal trust fund. So yes, like a lot of people who become rich, it looks like he could afford to take risks, but his financial success flows from his own work and investments.

People have to stop believing Google's AI overview - it can be a useful pointer to other sources but it still makes shit up all the time. In this specific instance, the overview says "Father's Philosophy: His father, a high school graduate, emphasized simplicity in business, famously describing it as three shoeboxes: money in, money out, and profit." Except the link there goes to a page where Ferris was quoting someone else (Nick Kokonas) about Nick's father, not Ferris' own dad. It's flat out wrong and typical AI slop.


You're correct. I was using the term colloquially, but some of his wealth and background was also mentioned on The Random Show https://www.therandom.show/ and another post on real estate when he mentioned selling family homes.


Please do a modicum of research utilizing basic things like Wikipedia, and county records in East Hampton.


This is spot on. I was an impressionable young male that loved that book and took to heart the ideas. Looking back it’s a mixed bag - the ideas teach you about delegation and thinking like an owner, but the bigger message that work sucks and you should figure out how to avoid it kinda hurts people who would be more ambitious.

An OG “digital nomad blogger bro” that took it all the way to the top!

At the end of the day his voice is a refreshing twist and a net positive but with a ton of caveats.


As was pointed out earlier, Ferris was a trust-fund kid and never needed to earn a living.


No way? Ok that changes a lot.


Would truly love to know who's actually buying this publication on a regular basis.

I'm assuming 80% of sales are impulse purchases in the checkout line, but really, who is getting these delivered to their door (if that's a thing).


Maybe shadow banned because the story is 4 years old, and has been repeated word for word already?

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=mike2477&sort=byPopularity&pre...

https://upupgrow.com/how-i-built-a-5000-per-month-side-proje...

https://getsimpledata.com/blog/sales-best-practices/2015828h...

Great story, but may be one reason.


Pretty sure Facebook is not a company that is taken over by MBAs and marketers that are making this happen.

Rather it's an engineering-first organization, run by an engineer.

Probably a mix of everyone's fault.


How is an MBA or marketer evil in a way that Zuck isn’t?


Churchill was pretty brutal.

"In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-history/winst...

"Thousands were sent to British run concentration camps during the Boer wars. Churchill summed up his time in South Africa by saying “it was great fun galloping about”."

https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-...


In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when the Indian states set trade restrictions with Bengal. That was one of the policies that was outside the Raj, as was the resulting profiteering. They did so after the fall of Burma at a time when Bengal was suffering an unprecedented series of natural disasters.

Facts can be inconvenient sometimes.


> Indian states set trade restrictions with Bengal. That was one of the policies that was outside the Raj

You mean the British administration resorted to scorched earth denial policies fearing the Japanese advance. It was literally Raj policy.

> Bengal was suffering an unprecedented series of natural disasters.

And the British response to the natural disasters was continuing to redirect supplies to military and refusing to allow shipping of humanitarian aid. Churchill's response to news of the famine was ask why Gandhi hadn't died yet.

> Facts can be inconvenient sometimes.

Like the fact that India repeatedly suffered famines under British rule but there hasn't been a famine since Independence?


India of British rule is now three countries, Bangladesh, India and Pakistan. Combine the three and there have been numerous famines since independence. Course that doesn't fit your agenda.


Interesting move. Of course makes sense to consolidate offices for efficiency, but seems they're losing a few things:

- Staying true to their roots where they were founded

- Having HQ's across time zones

- Being in the heart of NYC for advertising company connections

- Newport Beach is expensive real estate

Only reasons I can think of them needing to do this:

* If they're going to poach more Taco Bell employees and don't want them to have to move across state lines

* Poaching from the other chains

* Innovation b/c...SoCal?

* Purely for the benefit of the C-suite


The only reason I'm not convinced yet, is that it would be somewhat easy to run a statistical significant experiment with 1,000 people to verify if it's definitely real or not.

Have been expecting some research to come out from either a security firm, university researchers, or other to verify. Don't think it would cost too much to run, hoping something comes out soon.


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