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UL is a certification body, yes.

When the local building code requires that grid-connected devices are UL listed, then it becomes a legal requirement. I suspect this is probably the case in most jurisdictions across the US.

edit: NEC section 110.2 indicates all equipment must be "approved" and delegates this to the Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) locally; and the majority of them are going to defer to a "NRTL" (Nominally Recognized Testing Laboratory, such as UL, CSA, ETL, etc) instead of doing all the expensive and tedious testing themselves. So when it comes to grid connections, some sort of approval is nearly always a de facto legal requirement.


Mobile installations (RV’s, construction trailers, etc.) and off grid are two very common types of installations for solar inverters. And do not have to meet those requirements.


There are _many_ ways that all of this doesn't apply. Nevermind the fact that people that but things have the expectation of using the device with out interference.


Let's assume there are some people using these devices in a way that is not compliant with the local codes, because they haven't met the testing/certification requirements.

Genuine question. Which of these options do we prefer? (Choose any number)

1. Deye proactively bricks all the devices

2. US governments compel Deye to brick the devices

3. Local authorities penalize people using the devices illegally

4. No one does anything


1000% #4. No thought is even required to answer that.


#4.

If something actually burns down, authorities will circulate a bulletin and move to #3.

Anyone using the hardware in an off-grid, mobile, or other situation where the cited regulations don't apply, should sue the crap out of #1 and I will contribute to a gofundme for their legal battering ram.


> For instance, I refuse to wear a mask at the doctor’s because I know that masks don’t stop virus transmission, while they impede patient–doctor communication.

Yeah, sorry, can't take them seriously after this.

> We now know empirically what reasonable observers predicted inductively: once Covid has a toehold, non-pharmaceutical interventions do vast harm and have little or no effect on the speed at which it spreads; suppressing the virus is impossible; and we do not know how to make vaccines that will prevent infection.

Not with that attitude, for sure. This reads like a tired and warmed-over rant against "oh-so-terrible covid restrictions".


I think it's a lot more localized. I read in the Violet Blue link posted elsewhere in thread that the "Bay Area was in a 5th wave" with "numbers higher than the Delta wave from summer 2021" and I couldn't reconcile that with the state-level numbers I had been seeing elsewhere... but then I drilled down into the county-level numbers and sure enough, for SF, Santa Clara, and Alameda, it's back up to August 2021 levels.

But if you look at the data for CA overall, you see a very different picture: yes, things are up, but they're at about 30% of last August. So the bay area trend gets lost in that.

Also, at-home tests are plentiful now, so I'm guessing that a large number of cases are not getting caught up in the reporting system.


Here are sewer monitoring graphs for Silicon Valley

https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-wastewater

(These run about 6 days earlier than test results, and are not impacted by at-home tests.)

So, yes, it's similar to the August surge, but that one barely hit South Bay.

Anecdotally, our kids are in school, so we get all the respiratory diseases. There's a non-Covid cold going around south bay right now that's worse than Omicron (assuming you're fully vaccinated and boosted.)


This is actually pretty common. Two links offhand that have popped up on here recently:

Santa Clara County, CA: https://covid19.sccgov.org/dashboard-wastewater

Boston, MA: https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

HN thread for the Boston link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29466172 Thread has links to other areas as well, and some helpful discussion of how this data can be interpreted, as well as some potential problems with it.

It's my impression that most major metropolitan areas (and many smaller water systems) do this on a regular basis for multiple diseases; I guess it was never really common knowledge before it started popping up on web dashboards with this pandemic. Maybe they just weren't too keen on publishing it before now or something?


Good luck with Social Security as well. As far as I can tell, their physical offices closed in March 2020 and haven't re-opened. My local office number will reliably drop my call after 10m 30s on hold (line just goes silent) and I have no idea how long hold times actually are on the nationwide number, but I've gotten to the 90 minute mark several times.

It appears that you can do some select things online, but if not? Alternative is to send your documents (which usually involve things like passport, and sometimes state ID aka driver's license) and hope they'll return it in 10-14 days... Just putting both of those things in the same envelope seems like a huge risk to me.

I've been able to submit civil court proceedings at my local district court (in CA), have them get processed and resolved. Sure, there was a break or two in there for temporary closures, and things got delayed. (It closed down for a while back in Dec 2020 but hearings were processed when it reopened in the spring, for example.) Point is, it still /happened/, even with some delay. So why can't the SSA or State Department process anything at all? The amount of institutional failure in the federal government offices right now is pretty alarming, and I haven't seen a lot of attention to this fact.


Was a post yesterday with a link (the link itself appears to be down now, but here's the post anyway: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28532464 )

If it's to be believed, yes, looks like a torrent is going around. Unsalted passwords, everything

edit: https://archive.is/S6loc mirror of announcement


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