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Spain is asking the receipt?

Jokes aside, Canadian group points half your country is being spied, specially dissidents. You say nothing is todo with Spain, like a Saudi regime.

Then funds are traced from reserved funds of Spanish government to Pegasus's, you agree, say will investigate, ask the receipt to Israel? Just find who/why decided this, put the head down and try to apologize/add measures to avoid spying dissidents


Dissident? What are you talking about! Do you mean the people that broke the law?

The Canadian group you mention was receiving funds from one the regional government of Spain that was interested on this.


But you can find something meaningful (very easy), or start your own business (easiest moment in history to rise 1million), or teach in a bootcamp...

There are 100 options. Wasting a wonderfull mind just because... sad


Sadly, there not many options if you want comfortable life and do good at the same time.

My fiends and I really wanted to do good when starting our careers and looked at many non-profits, all of them pay sub-market rates. And then we learned secondhand that most of these non-profits were run by narcissists leaders with worse office politics than regular offices.

We got jobs in regular companies building some of most critical infrastructure of the internet. We felt like we were contributing to advancement of humanity and freedom. But after 10 years, we realized we just made rich kids richer, divided humanity like never before, destroyed privacy, and made sure everyone is addicted to their screens.

I mostly helped in the building of the cloud, and I know what business most of our clients are in. Very few are doing something that is not harmful.

Teach in bootcamp? So that these rich-kids will have more workers?

Start your own business? Consulting? Helping other companies do evil? Another app to get hooked on? Restaurants? There is already obesity epidemic? Build new homes or rehab? I can respect that but it is capital intensive.

Anyways, I see whenever trading is mentioned people call it a useless activity while most of us are engaged in actual harmful activities.


> And then we learned secondhand that most of these non-profits were run by narcissists leaders with worse office politics than regular offices.

I've worked for a tech-focused nonprofit for the last decade, and know people who have worked for other tech nonprofits. My experience (direct and secondhand) does not match what you said here. There are lots of good mission-focused tech companies to work for (both non- and for-profit). If, as a sibling comment suggested, you want to bring clean drinking water to the world, I know people who have worked at charity: water and enjoyed it.

It's true the pay will usually be below market rate for software engineers. It still can be much higher than most people in US[0] will ever make, and not an obstacle to living comfortably (by any definition of "comfortable" I consider reasonable). It's possible it could make it more difficult to buy a nice house in a central location in one of the more expensive cities, but that's true for most people and needs systemic changes to address it.

0: I assume we're talking about the US, since that's where the really high tech salaries are (and it's the place I live and have experience)


Ethical healthcare? There is not much you can bs when faced with your own mortality.


What a load of shit. This is the same mindset folks who pop up to yell at some Google engineers have. Why are you using your skills to collect data for adtech! You could be helping bring clean drinking water to the world!

People value what they value, and should be able to work in fields that bring them happiness and don’t break the law without your judgement. Who are you to tell anyone what’s meaningful?


It's unfortunate that adtech enjoys less popularity than bringing clean drinking water to the world. That's really a tragedy and the main thing wrong with the world.

I wish I could do wildly unpopular things without people criticizing me.

Who the hell is everyone else, to dare judge me?

I am above judgement.


Or you know, do the polite thing and keep quiet?

The sentiments from you, and the original post I was replying to, have inherent privilege baked into them. A South Asian person with family who depends on them for remittances is ignored. A family with a child with special needs that require specific health insurance coverage is ignored. There are so many reasons people do the work they do. Presumably you think people who work in adtech, for example, are somehow morally inferior. It's this sophomoric view of the world that's bothersome. To tell anyone they should consider teaching at a coding bootcamp instead of what they're doing ... I have no words.

I'd love to hear how these folks are changing the world for the better. It's much easier to tell others what they should do with their time and money.


You paint a picture of adtech workers as underprivileged selfless providers for their disabled family.

The truth is there are underprivileged people in every type of industry, doing every kind of job. When people criticize adtech, it is not poor people they are criticizing, and I think we both know the picture you're painting is nothing like the median adtech worker.

You're using disadvantaged people as a blanket justification for the whole industry. But the industry targets everyone, whether they're disadvantaged or not. With that reasoning you can justify anything, but that's not even the core of the problem.

There are scammers who target the elderly over the phone, that have the same justification. You might think I'm picking scammers because they're so hated, but the truth is scammers are people too. They have families that depend of them, they have kids to feed, and they deserve empathy just as much as you do.

But who does their work hurt? Old people, poor people, rich people, and also other underprivileged people.

That's the real problem with the idea that doing the right thing is a privilege. You don't care who's being hurt, and you don't care what their privilege is.

If you're hurting more people than you're helping, you don't get to demand that people also love you for what you're doing, is the problem.


>Presumably you think people who work in adtech, for example, are somehow morally inferior.

No. I think that's being presumptuous.

The point is not about calling people "morally inferior". Before thinking of yourself as underprivileged and above criticism, you should try to see that there are people less privileged than you that adtech is targeting (or preying on), and people much more privileged than either of us that profit from this work.

>I'd love to hear how these folks are changing the world for the better. It's much easier to tell others what they should do with their time and money.

No, absolutely not. It's really not me who has a pet peeve against adtech in particular, it's a whole lot of people from all walks of life. Do you think I want to feel "superior" and tell you that you're "inferior"? What good does it do to anyone to think like that, exactly?

Maybe I happen to do something that is less unpopular than adtech. Or maybe not. But if you think that's why I replied to you, you're missing the point.


I think that is a little harsh. A huge amount of tech work is not meaningful. Almost none of what tech companies output is required for a meaningful or happy life. It’s just that humanity is addicted to growth and things and just “doing stuff” thinking it all matters. Just look at the several meaningless companies YC supports.

Some meaningful tech work can be found in healthcare, social work, some portions of national security work, environmental research, teaching, and other places, but they are the exceptions. My definition of meaningful is that it either helps people, in a real way, or furthers knowledge or adds to the expression of humanity (i.e., art).

In my opinion, if someone can siphon off value from the human constructed rivers of the financial markets, and then use that value to live a good life, then I don’t see the problem. Some loose arguments about market liquidity could be made.


Dunno, finding something meaningful to work on has been really hard for me, personally.

It's either a big drop in revenue or bullshit projects


Sad to hear that top minds just give up on humanity and accept money as a goal by itself. I do have long term investments (5 nanometers, extreme litography, electric vehicles... just what I love), I make money, but is not something I need to live.

Last month, when war started I told my team, Aerovironment stock, is gonna double (war drones) but I'm not gonna be part and I want you all to feel how calmed I'm about that and undertand (I don't need those 100k). I now undertand the difference between being Socrates or a 'sofist' (greek philosophs both, one for pleasure, the second as a job). Investing shouldn't be a need, is what's best for humanity. I think Elon musk already refered this way


The key is not to predict a black swan, but to keep reasoning and awake, trying to figure out where the focus is needed.

I don't value the outcome (you call it luck), but the reasoning behind.


Bravo. Peace of mind is an indirect cost of investment. I've met a brilliant head of engineering, that told me "I've sold all my stocks/coins so I can stop looking at my phone and reading articles, and I can really focus on what matters". Not having state bonds that allow people face inflation, has a HUge indirect cost: having offices full of nerds looking at stock/coin exchanges. How much human valuable time is now lost on that?


I see too many fearless, and too less greedy. China is already there, delisting stocks from the US, empowering it's currency and improving fast in intelectual property regulation and economics management. Maybe we won't see crashes, but the big risk is a change of dynamics, a big stocks flat only sustained by inflation that sooner or later could trigger the ultimate shift of mindset, china beeing the right place to invest, yuan the world currency.


I think so too. Increasing money supply for too long devalues that currency, even if its a global currency like usd. In its face a more stable currency will start looking more appealing for trade. This dynamics may take several years to play out though.


Interesting! Could you explain how did you manage to find sites and how can you know where are they based?


Right now, we gather location data from the pages themselves. Some shops (not many) include an address. The process is very error-prone though, so our accuracy in this area is likely not where we want it to be. We are working on other ways to improve that.


In Germany, using torrent means 700€ fine (ISP reports). The goal of this might be that they... - Want to punish people that can't do tunneling - Want to prevent content distribution - found a way to get money from foreigners that don't know (This happened to a friend of min, 1 month after he got installed in Hamburg)

I hope is the 3rd


Are you sure it isnt the case of a Prenda Law copycat? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law We had one in Poland few years back after UPC customer data leak (name/IP). They filed court pre trial papers and started extorting people, finally vanished after one of the prosecutors got interested.


So just using bit torrent gets you a fine!?

Even for legitimate purposes?


I think the OP is overdramatising a little. Torrenting content that you're allowed to redistribute is of course perfectly fine – what is happening is the usual procedure of rightsholders attempting to log IPs that are illegally uploading copyrighted content, obtaining the contact data of the person behind the IP from the ISP and then sending out a cease-and-desist order.


If there is one big broker, and the broker is free to control what can be done, and the volumes... The broker is god.

Regulation coming for all sides soon.


Once again, the power of a phone call to the right person, asking for the right thing and offering the right compensation.


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