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I'm sure it was also for his own sake/sanity. He took two ~9-month sabbaticals toward the last half, which was not the norm for cartoonists at the time.


I was going to comment something similar. I think I'm about the same age as the commenter grew up reading C&H, and also had a disaffected attitude. I don't think it was Calvin that made me that way, but the broader media at the time. Heck, most kids at my school did not read it but the general way to be cool was to be aloof.

I think it was a hangover from Gen-X and the 80's. Ferris Bueller was pretty aloof and angst'd to the gills wasn't he?


eureka!


Aren't they attempting to also display current time though? Your share is a clock starting at midnight/noon. Kimi K2 seems to be the best on each refresh.


I don't think this is the argument you want it to be, unless you're acknowledging the power of the Chinese government and their ability to suppress and destroy evidence. Even so there is photo evidence of dead civilians in the square. The best estimates we have are 200-10,000 deaths, using data from Beijing hospitals that survived.

AskHistorians is legitimately a great resource, with sources provided and very strict moderation: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/pu1ucr/tiana...


I appreciate you responding in good faith; I realise that not everyone is willing to even consider questioning historical accounts.

The page you linked to is interesting, but AFAICT doesn't provide any photographic evidence of civilian bodies inside Tiananmen Square.


The 10,000 number seems baseless

The source for that is a diplomatic cable from the British ambassador within 48 hours of the massacre saying he heard it secondhand

It would have been too soon for any accurate data which explains why it's so high compared to other estimates


Are you aware of any photographic evidence of civilian deaths inside Tiananmem Square?

I recently read a bit more about the Tiananmem Square incident, and I've been shocked at just how little evidence there actually is.


Yeah I just ordered one. The effectiveness of this HN post plus this parent comment has me convinced they're in cahoots.


An elite zeal team has been dispatched from Wisconsin to take care of the issue.


NOT CAHOOTING


> Fixing problems is not as simple as giving someone money

I've heard the exact opposite. Usually it's the strings attached that end up being perfect for the corrupt to grab onto and manipulate.


Or it's going to be corrupt no matter what. Like life, corruption finds a way.


It sounds like you're conflating legal arguments with moral ones. You're saying animals lack rights so it's morally okay to enslave/make use of them?

I'd argue it's much baser than that. Animals have feelings and often feel very bad when kept in enslaved conditions. Since humans can understand the pain they inflict on enslaved animals, then it's wrong of us to continue enslaving them when we have alternatives that are just as healthy for us, if not more healthy.

I would also say your assumption that pigs do not comprehend their actions and cannot choose between alternatives is false.


> It sounds like you're conflating legal arguments with moral ones. You're saying animals lack rights so it's morally okay to enslave/make use of them?

I am not conflating moral and legal arguments, though the legal is a determination of the moral (contra something stupid and tyrannical like legal positivism). Genuine law is not arbitrary or established by fiat. There are general moral principles, and the law plays a role in determining their particular, contingent application in a circumscribed and prudential manner within the given circumstances. That is why an unjust law is not a real law and why within one jurisdiction something may be legitimately legal while it is legitimately illegal in another.

So I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.

As for enslaving animals, I would reject that it is possible to enslave non-human animals as a matter of metaphysical fact. Non-human animals can be held in captivity or employed for labor, but this is not slavery. To be enslaved presupposes the properties I explained. However, the absence of rights does not mean a right to do whatever you please with animals. It is immoral to torment or to abuse an animal, even if the animal doesn't have rights in this regard.

> I'd argue it's much baser than that. Animals have feelings and often feel very bad when kept in enslaved conditions. Since humans can understand the pain they inflict on enslaved animals, then it's wrong of us to continue enslaving them when we have alternatives that are just as healthy for us, if not more healthy.

We have to make distinctions here. First, one I already used above, is the distinction between rights and morality. That is, the absence of a right does not entail a total absence of moral constraints or considerations in the relevant respect. I have no problem with criticisms of the contingent and particular conditions of, say, factory farming. I would agree that conditions in which animal welfare is better is preferable, but on moral grounds and by prioritizing human good. But these are matters of prudence, not principle. Whereas it is intrinsically evil to employ people in chattel slavery[0], it is not intrinsically evil to hold animals in captivity or to use them for labor.

> I would also say your assumption that pigs do not comprehend their actions and cannot choose between alternatives is false.

Okay, and I would disagree with you - it is an inference, not an assumption on my part - because pigs lack the kind of language that entails the kind of intentionality that would make rationality possible (which is what understanding presupposes), something free choice presupposes. That is, they "choose" based on sense impressions and appetite (in the broad sense of the term).

[0] Emphasis on chattel. Some forms of servitude are not immoral.


I don't consider late 20s and early 30s to be "kids" though.


Peter Giunta, who said "I love Hitler" and "Everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber", is 31 years old. The others in the group are in their 20s..


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