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Very touching writing. Reminds me of Brokeback Mountain.


Cool! And your last name is Fender.


Also this funky citation:

Markus Funk, Vanessa Tobisch, and Adam Emfield. 2020. Non-Verbal Auditory Input for Controlling Binary, Discrete, and Continuous Input in Automotive User Interfaces. In Proceedings of the 2020 CHI Conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems (Honolulu, HI, USA) (CHI ’20). Association for Computing Machinery, 1–13. https://doi.org/10.1145/3313831.3376816


Talk about nominative determinism! Fender and Funk?


Imagine back in the days when calculators were just invented. An 8 year old kid might have the similar complain: “my classmate finished a 4 digits number multiplication problem in 5 seconds which generally took 1mins.” People might say, in the long term, the kid who cheated would be less proficient in arithmetic, which turned out to be true. But when you think about it, it seems not the end of the world when most high schooler in US cannot do complicated arithmetic quickly and accurately without a calculator.


The two situations are not analogous.

The kind of task is not the same. With a calculator, you are delegating a very specific, bounded, and well-defined task. Being unable to approximate non-integer square roots by hand isn't the same as not knowing what square roots mean or when they are applicable. However with LLMs, people are often (trying to) delegate their executive-function and planning.

Another way to tell that the tasks are qualitatively different is to look at what levels/kinds of errors users will tolerate. A company selling calculators that gave subtly but undeniably-wrong answers 5% of the time would rightfully go bankrupt.

If you want to compare LLMs to something of yesteryear, it's closer to hiring someone to do the work for you: That's always been considered cheating, regardless of how cheaply the accomplice works or how badly they screw up.


Even today though you’re still taught arithmetic without a calculator. My kids have spelling words even though we have spell check.

Why? Because otherwise they’d have no idea if the answer provided to them is “correct”. As the saying goes, garbage in garbage out. You type the wrong numbers into the calculator ? How would you know the answer is also wrong unless you knew “about” what the answer should be?


To my knowledge, even before HP-48 level calculators came in the classroom nobody cared about arithmetic past middle school. The core of the teaching was proofs and a lot more theory, and that went on into CS for me.

I'd compare it to the ability to write and run basic assembly. We did it, and got checked on it, but that was not what we were there for.


At the same time, I remember most of high school math barely needing calculators outside chemistry and physics.

Look at some of the SAT math questions:

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/digital-sat-samp...

The questions are all designed to have a tidy, closed-form answer. A calculator is either marginally helpful or outright cheating.


Arithmetic beyond the basics is mostly mechanical work with little gain to be had, unlike the described exercises.

The problem is that we’re letting kids go to the gym with a forklift, and we need them fit by the time they join adult life.


I have a feeling this is somehow different. The tool is broad enough, that I don't have to think myself in a wide variety of tasks, not just one. Which hurts my intelligence way more.


> it seems not the end of the world when most high schooler in US cannot do complicated arithmetic quickly and accurately without a calculator.

You do realize those students learn arithmetic in an environment where calculators are not allowed right?


Yeah in your situation the student who used a calculator to avoid learning literally all arithmetic, to include basic multiplication tables, is going to be poorly served by their teachers. What the hell are you on about


Finally a good tool to view HN in terminal. Thank you! Where can I find the keyboard shortcuts? I can move with vim key binding, but can go back.


cha-config(5) or about:chawan. The former also has an online version: https://chawan.net/doc/cha/config.html#pager-actions

For navigation in particular you'd use capital D to discard the current buffer and return to the previous page. There's also , (comma, back) and . (period, forward), which non-destructively cycle through the stack.

(Well, it's really a tree, but the UI mostly treats it as a stack.)


Thank you so much!


I don't buy the argument because the world around us is build for human, we'd better build humanoid robots. Robots with belted wheels or 4 legs can handle stairs, ramps, uneven terrains well, easily and fast. Installing a couple of robot arms on it, you have much more robust robots. Spending so much effort just to solve the moving and balancing is a waste of money and talent.


The way it comes across to me is it's about the marketing, and target audience. The average family isn't getting these things in 'their home'. The economy is shifting more and more to luxury good sectors exclusively, and making them humanoid helps with justifying their high price, and chasing investor money.


It doesn't make sense.

If the world is built around humans why are we so dumb and build flat floors and walls into our buildings?

It's like we've designed houses to accommodate furniture.


It's not those companies. There is a typo in the original post. 3/15 is before 185 days.


Thank you!


The best case is to not pay the taxes upfront. Say the company wants me to pay 50% tax in cash and then give me 100% of my vested RSU; I want 50% of my vested RSU without needing to pay taxes.

Yes, we are contacting lawyers.

Thanks for your attention!


That's not necessarily the case. You might not want to put up money to cover taxes, but that's not advantageous in all situations, so echoing everyone else's advice here: talk in depth with a professional who's time you pay for.


I'd rather pay the taxes directly than trust someone else to do it, especially when that someone is making it as difficult to get the money from your investment. Those RSU's were earned, and the whole point is you get to share in the liquidity event.


Huh? Who's trusting some other party to pay your taxes? I'm saying keep the RSUs, pay for the taxes out of pocket, so you hold onto RSUs that may appreciate faster than, say, holding onto SP500, likes say picking up FB at 30.


Thank you! We are definitely contacting lawyers.


Thank you so much!


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