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Depends on the developer and on their organization they work for. Ideally, most do, but the pressures of work and the styles of project management sometimes sideline that, or the team ends up in survival mode where they merely try to stave off the inevitable spaghetti apocalypse


Slight call for help:

I'm close with somebody who is experiencing extreme 10/10 withdrawal or other side effects from their ssri (escitalopram). They tried to quit, then went back ionto it due to severe withdrawal, and its actually gdtting worse every day now even 1.5 weeks later. What should I read or watch to understand what is going on?


ssri have to be phased out very slowly.

and it helps a great deal if the life circumstances and the personal perspectives that lead to the need to take them have changed. long nested sentence. let me rephrase.

shit was flying high, leading to the need to take ssri.

is there objectivly less shit? or do they honestly no longer care / see it as existential shit?

ssri ar great to create space for psychotherapy and life changes. and then you phase them out. or they, they phase them out.


> ssri ar great to create space for psychotherapy and life changes. and then you phase them out. or they, they phase them out.

Well spoken. Creating space is a necessary first step.

One thing I disagree with personally is that being medication free is always a useful goal. I take medication and therapy and I see both as a way to _maintain_ a healthy mental state. Sometimes there is not going to be objectively less shit; you cannot always change external circumstances.


My question is: how did you manage all that the refined art in such a small amount of time? I can see the coding but I always assume art takes forever unless you have a partner who handles the art


OP has mentioned that they worked with an artist in other threads


Stop celebrating the guy who brought spyware and ads to windows


The core issue is software freedom. Software, when it’s commercial, is something you basically give control of your hardware to and you have to trust that it won’t abuse that power. Or, you dont even use your own hardware, and you just send your data in an even more opaque way to the cloud. Will it be misused?

Typically, yes, egregiously. We need either computing platforms that sandbox things fully, or else full control over our software. And an end to these Eula’s Eula’s that, let’s be honest, could ask for anything and we couldn’t say no. Even governments get stuck here and can’t refuse


Yeah, they say programmers get paid that too, but not where I live


You don’t need a high school degree for those jobs either. Hamlet and biology isn’t needed day to day at most workplaces


If you say the problem is social class and poverty, and not having available role models to show how adult life actually works, you’ll get flamed and trolled. If you say the problem is racial issues, you’ll get upvotes. I’ll just sit here and await my downvotes now


Role models are kind of a non-answer to the question. It's like saying the problem is "bad luck." Role-model-based policy solutions are, if not impossible, at least deeply impractical. Childcare subsidies and other forms of welfare, including simple direct cash transfers, have been shown to be strongly beneficial and are much simpler to implement. What people dislike about those is that they involve starting fights with lobbyists. Hence non-actionable perspectives like "the problem is role models" or "the problem is personal responsibility," which are not solutions so much as excuses for collective inaction.


> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Is it possible that the issue is both and that the two are interrelated?

It seems to me that there can be both a problem with lack of role models and problems with racial issues and that both should be improved.

It seems to me that lack of role models could be exasperated by structural issues (mass incarceration, parents having to work too many hours) and in turn the lack of role models could exasperate the structural issues (unattended kids getting into crimes, kids struggling to get into college since their parents don't have time to tutor them).


The pattern I've noticed is that the poor and the poorly educated have no career expectations from their kids. If the kids with wealthy and/or highly educated parents showed up at home with just one poor grade all hell broke lose. Grounded for 6 months, allowance cuts, no more TV or video games etc One kept his kid at home during the holidays to tutor him himself, screaming 90% of the time. The other parents would look at the grades for < 1 minute and compliment the single thing they did well. Later on, when the other kids ended up in their first factory job the mantra was if only my parents gave me a good kick in the but I wouldn't be here right now

I would send all 13 year olds to the factory for a good few months. Earnings to be paid when 21. I would also introduce Sunday school if your grades are crappy, 8 hours every week until you are no longer behind. And finally, call in the parents regularly just to annoy the fuck out of them. You don't seem very involved mr Jones. Could you be so kind to explain these grades?


I hope you're never in a position to make any of these decisions.


Which one(s) and why?

A few months in the factory is nothing compared to your entire life. Stories are no substitutes for experience. Those who go on to get degrees and nice jobs would also benefit from the experience.

Sunday school because if you are sufficiently behind on the material you will never catch up. Never is a long time.

Getting the parents to show up and explain why the grades are bad will force them to consider why that is. I had lots of friends with parents who absolutely loved them but couldn't be any less interested in grades.

I appreciate how anecdotal this all is. How do you see it?


> screaming 90% of the time.

Well isn't that just awesome parenting.


I'm not suggesting it is a good idea, it was just to illustrate the difference. He did learn grammar and went to university.

I'm pretty sure he is equally stubborn and hot headed as his dad if not more so. Now that I think about it, he even believes in pulling oneself up by the bootstraps. ha-ha


It’s the opposite. Being contrarian is free karma, generally. The downvotes come from picking unpopular positions, whether you’re wright or wrong. I used to get downvoted a lot when talking to people about privacy, but now those sorts of posts get upvotes. Times and prevailing opinions change


But then they take you over the data harvesting coals


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