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disclaimer: I work at solo.io -- but here to give you some more info.

Here's a comment thread from our March 2020 release https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22878146

From a timeline pov, Gloo's is... March 2018 - First open sourced Dec 2018 - Gloo Enterprise announced Nov 2019 - Gloo 1.0 (w/lots of features in between) and a number of releases this year.

One thing I'd say is that the customer base we work with in deploying Gloo Enterprise are major enterprise companies. Many are up and running.

The slack is very active so I invite you to join in and ask the users in there your questions as well.


If you want to learn more and get a live demo -- https://solo.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_neq5G0eAToSGoDXUNZM...


We have a list of our end users and customers listed here along with links to their talks and blogs about their experience with gloo https://www.solo.io/customers/


nice post - great detail. looking forward to the next one.


how did I miss this? which terminal?


Docker Hub does make money with paying for private repo plans but not sure how much that is and how many people are in the "newly restructured" Docker org


Unless they are downsizing to 10-20 people, I don't see how that generates enough revenue to keep the lights on.

It's weird. Assuming Docker Enterprise was keeping the lights on, why would you sell your cash cow? Maybe the price was too good to turn down. But now Docker Inc finds itself in the same shoes as other companies trying to monetize open source without a platform.

If this means we'll get to pay for Docker on the desktop AND it'll get improvements, I'm all for it. But it's a tough situation nowadays (nobody expects to pay for most developer tools).


Reading between the lines, it's pretty obvious that the enterprise business did NOT generate enough revenue to keep the lights on.


And what does exactly?


Funding from investors betting on the future value of a business built on the huge user base of Docker’s free products.


Docker Hub is hosted on AWS and Docker doesn't charge for egress. I wouldn't be too surprised if private registry revenue doesn't even cover AWS egress (even with huge discounts Docker likely has).

Other registries like Bintray or GitHub Registry charge $0.45—$0.50 per GB egress, while Docker Hub charges a much smaller flat fee.


yeah I know Hub has some revenue stream, but I'd be fairly surprised if it even covers the cloud bill they must get from all the free repo's.

From my experience most companies using private repos use their cloud provider's ones for the IAM integration.


cool idea. I think we have one here in San Francisco. I just wonder about rain/snow (for some areas) and then naps..where do they take them? But in general I think the kids (and adults) need more outdoor time


I remember when I was a kid we were spending 6-7 hours playing in the snow. In the evening we'd come home and there was ice on our clothes, shoes and socks. Wasn't a problem. We'd jump off the clothes and take a hot shower or drink some hot tea. Good times. Kids are very resilient. While it was really cold outside the energy generated from our play would warm us up all-right.


There is a lot of gear involved... our son wears long underwear, wool socks, proper rain jacket / pants...and we're in a relatively mild climate. I think that's one of the benefits though - it teaches kids that crap weather doesn't mean you can't go outside and play, you just need to be prepared.

As far as naps - our kiddo doesn't take a nap anymore, so it isn't an issue. Younger classes typically get out earlier, so you could do a nap then. I'm not sure there are any all day outdoor preschools....


That is exactly what we would need for our son if we sent him to preschool in southern China (maybe not the rain jacket) simply given the lack of indoor heating (we will wait till he is older).


That seems like a good question. From the article:

> There, with temperatures hovering around 40 degrees Fahrenheit, Rose and her 13 classmates are huddled together under a tarp hung among trees, learning to make cedar tea.

Yeah, that's hypothermia weather. Get a bit wet in that and you're going to be really, really miserable.

I love being outdoors, but 5C and rain is the worst. I much prefer snow and a bit of sunshine.


>> I just wonder about rain/snow

Sounds like more worthwhile learning opportunities to me! I really dig this idea


I've considered getting a WeWork space...but haven't yet for myself.

But I totally wonder how it will affect all those startups and independent people.


I love this and have had other folks use this type of thing regularly in start off meetings. Nice way to pause a bit to check in with people. We used a scale of 1-10 and if you were lower than 7, you explained why... sometimes it was a work thing and sometimes a personal thing but it gave the group a chance to either help problem solve or offload work things to give our colleague extra space to deal with the things outside of work.


interesting move....they are like a whole new financial system where millions / billions of $$ are flowing from all the online/app transactions to the new financing thing they did and not the card...


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