According to the article, taiwan looks exactly like china...
"Students in these programs often become a low-paid labor force, working long hours in factories in the guise of “practical training,” according to education experts and a recent report from Control Yuan, a government agency that acts as a watchdog. Some schools intentionally leave gaps in schedules for students to work, blurring the lines between work-study and part-time labor, the report said."
After graduation, students can find it difficult to move from the shop floor to higher-skilled engineering positions without further education, Ping Chou, chairperson of the Taiwan Higher Education Union and a sociology professor at Nanhua University, told Rest of World.
“The time spent in school is very, very little — sometimes less than two days a week, or in some cases, just one day or less,” he said. “What’s the reality? Most of their time is spent working.”
Try reading the article rather than reflexing jumping into propaganda mode. Also, try not to use "ccp". It makes it obvious to everyone.
> I sincerely hope US and Canada can regrow some manufacturing capacity.
What does canada have anything to do with anything. When was canada a manufacturing power? Why do canadians love to interject themselves into topics that don't involve them?
> 1) A massive devaluation of housing, stocks and other similar items.
You want wealth destruction? Most of americans' wealth is tied to home equity and 401k.
> That's why I said we are going to get seriously hurt.
Who is we? Are you even american?
> 2) Educate a whole generation that labor is honorable, so that engineers, scientists, technicians and such get more respect (I mean real respect, not the superficial one nowadays) than lawyers and bankers.
What are you talking about? You think lawyers and bankers get more respect than engineers and scientists?
> But I'm seeing is that US is taking another darker road.
> Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians.
Japan is not in the west. Japan is not a western country. They are not a western peoples. They don't speak a western language. They don't have western culture. They don't even use western script.
In what world is Japan "in the West"? Ask a japanese person whether they are in the west or are westerners. They'd laugh in your face.
The west is narrowly western european or western european descended majority nations. Broadly it's european majority nations.
> And, tbh, democracy, freedom of speech, and gender equality are pretty great values to endorse.
But none of those are "innately" Western. Most of the current West do not have free speech. Western civilization ( going back to socrates ) has been against democracy. Not to mention western civilization has been against gender equality.
The values you listed are actually innately anti-western values counter to 3000 years of western tradition.
If you argued for latin, greek language, history, civilization,culture ( something actually innately western ), then I'd agree.
> I think democracies are innately superior, including morally, to autocracies.
Even if the democracy commits mass genocide? I think the most dangerous societies/systems/governments are those filled by people who think they or their system are innately superior ( especially morally ) as it gives them moral cover to commit all kinds of evil.
Then again, Socrates and Plato thought democracies were innately inferior...
History certainly hasn't shown democracies to be innately morally superior.
It can be both depending on the context. A westerner is a european or a european descended person.
> For example many Asian people are more western than many white Americans.
What does this even mean? How can an asian person be more western than a white american. That's like saying a white american be more "eastern" than a chinese person.
I've never heard an asian person say they are a westerner. There may be asian people who appreciate western culture more than some westerners, but that doesn't make them a westerner. No more than a white american who appreciates chinese culture more than the average chinese makes him a chinese person.
> Would you really not consider e.g. adoptive children to be part of the culture of their adoptive parents?
Sure. But culture isn't "innate". But being a westerner is innate. I could learn chinese, but that doesn't make me a chinese person. A chinese person could learn english but he is still "innately" chinese.
> Very easily, since one is an ethnicity, while the other is a nationality/culture.
I already acknowledged that. My point is what do you mean by a western person or a westerner. Anyone can partake in a culture. You can eat chinese food or indian food but that doesn't make you a chinese person or an indian person.
Am I wrong here. Or is the term "west/westerner" used differently around the world.
Would a child of European descent born and raised in China be a 'westerner' in your eyes? What about a second generation child, still fully ethnically European?
> Would a child of European descent born and raised in China be a 'westerner' in your eyes?
Not just to my eyes. To chinese eyes, african eyes, middle eastern eyes, etc. There have been tiktoks and youtube videos of westerners born in china who were called foreigners by the chinese themselves.
> What about a second generation child, still fully ethnically European?
Elon Musk was born in south africa, a non-western country in a non-western continent. Charlize Theron was born in south africa. They are both westerners. Doesn't matter where you were born.
The european person born in china can become a chinese citizen. But he can never become "chinese". Just like a chinese person can never become a european/westerner. He can become a EU citizen. He can become an american citizen. But he can't become a westerner. Am I wrong here?
> I think the beauty of women changed humanity. Inspired by these beings that were so beautiful they were almost gods, men strived to be more than club-wielding cavemen.
Men did strive to be more than club-wielding cavement. We became spear, axe, arrow, gun, cannon, etc wielding cavemen.
> To be kind and loving and worth a damn.
Or armed to the teeth? Armed to a level that the most brutish caveman could only dream.
History along with the lack of diversity in the Y-chromosome paint a far different picture than the one you are describing.
> Nearly all the people we fund at Y Combinator use Apple laptops
I find this absolutely shocking. Was this a west coast thing? I graduated and got my first job around that time and never met a single developer who used an apple laptop. My CS department was entirely unix/linux/bsd and windows. All my internships and jobs post graduation was windows or linux. My experience was that the hacker community, cs community, developer community all looked down on apple laptops, especially back then.
I guess we all live in our own little bubbles.
Edit: Also, the worry back then wasn't so much that microsoft is dead, but that microsoft was expanding so much that even if you preferred to develop on a linux stack, you still wanted to get some background in C#, VB, tsql, etc to improve your chances at landing a job.
They "chose" to abandon it? Weren't they forced to retreat by the german army who encircled it and chose to starve out the population rather than directly attack the city?
> The article mentions it below even:
That reads like ww2 german propaganda. What did you expect. People in moscow to starve also? "Lashings of caviar"? Give me a break.
Also, once the soviets repelled the german attack on moscow, didn't the soviets liberate leningrad? If the soviets were as cruel as you claim, why would they even bother? Not only that, it's known the soviets tried to get food into the city even before they liberated the city.
> Nor did the Soviets acknowledge the extent of the suffering.
Is this a joke? The soviets took every opportunity to paint the germans as barbaric. The starvation of leningrad isn't some secret nobody knew about.
The easiest way to tell if some historical anecdote is true or not is how cartoonish the caricature becomes. Both on the positive/heroic and negative/villain side of the history.
> That reads like ww2 german propaganda. What did you expect. People in moscow to starve also? "Lashings of caviar"? Give me a break.
For better or worse, anecdotes of the caviar delivered by the crates to the top party officials appear in many Russian sources. I don't know whether independent historians confirmed these stories but they are believed by many. For very good reasons, since this is what the party did all along - it's the brutal conditions outside the party HQ in Leningrad that make these anecdotes especially poignant.
> Also, once the soviets repelled the german attack on moscow, didn't the soviets liberate leningrad?
Not until more than two years later. (It was not for the lack of trying - in 1942 an unsuccessful operation led to a complete loss of two full armies.)
"Students in these programs often become a low-paid labor force, working long hours in factories in the guise of “practical training,” according to education experts and a recent report from Control Yuan, a government agency that acts as a watchdog. Some schools intentionally leave gaps in schedules for students to work, blurring the lines between work-study and part-time labor, the report said."
After graduation, students can find it difficult to move from the shop floor to higher-skilled engineering positions without further education, Ping Chou, chairperson of the Taiwan Higher Education Union and a sociology professor at Nanhua University, told Rest of World.
“The time spent in school is very, very little — sometimes less than two days a week, or in some cases, just one day or less,” he said. “What’s the reality? Most of their time is spent working.”
Try reading the article rather than reflexing jumping into propaganda mode. Also, try not to use "ccp". It makes it obvious to everyone.