Proxmox = infra. You run ops. Cloudron = platform. Ops is mostly done. Clicking apps is easy. Maintaining them isn’t.

Right, but with helper-scripts "ops is mostly done" on Proxmox too. You just point at them and perhaps follow some instructions and that's it.

Helper scripts automate day 0. Cloudron automates day 2+.

Install ≠ operate

I still need to go back working on https://www.cinekids.info/ , a tool I made for myself to use before showing any movie to my 4 years old kiddo. It scrapes reviews from some parent friendly movie reviews websites and aggregates them.

I'm also automating more stuff around bookmarks management -> I used to manage an awesome list as a repository on GitHub for myself and over a couple of years there are relatively many stars on this repository. However I lost interest in maintaining this repo manually as I prefer to save my bookmarks on Shaarli. I'm coding a CLI tool to automate the work of syncing my shaarli links to my public "popular" (+500 stars) repo at https://github.com/SansGuidon/bookmarks

Myself and other users complain a lot about the "native" Plex -> Ombi watchlist integration being broken, I coded some sync tool to workaround the app malfunctions, by using Ombi, Plex and TMDB (The Movie Database) APIs and ensure Ombi is always up-to-date based on Plex watchlist. This works very well and allowed me to put a stop to the complains from my family members :-D

I'm also automating most of my email/linkedin interactions thanks to userscripts. And I keep automating more of the work I do around Cloudron, which is a very fun and stable platform to manage apps on VPS without the pains.

It becomes quite difficult nowadays to bookmark webpages or archive them, with CF, BotStopper/Anubis, Go Away etc... we will just need to all burn more cpu power just to access good content.

As a former user of N8N the tool looked interesting to me but I ended up converting most of my use cases into shell scripts, python scripts executed by cron jobs, and into ci/cd jobs. It gave me more flexibility about the tech stack I need, and a greater ease of debugging and developing robust designed tools.

I guess N8N was not intuitive for simple things and seemed too complicated for me. I'm now happier with cron jobs/GitOps to manage my automations. On the other hand I also had to replace some IFTTT workflows with my own scripts.

More work for me but I gained quality and control.

Could be related to this as well -> https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586 where content seems imported but its indexation is stuck in the queue. Blocker for me.

the trap of using indexation and a database when normal grep would work with disk-based storage

Exactly... so much hype around complexity when simplicity wins. That's also why such systems like Wallabag, Linkwarden, Omnivore etc all disappointed me. In the end with a simple system made of static files and tools available out of the box on most distributions, I could make my own alternative to most archiving/bookmarking management systems and it just works. No DB, no framework, no fancy UI. Yet powerful. I have to blog about it.

Do you mind sharing your approach? I've been looking for a system where I can store all kind of data (webpage, pdf, images, docx, xlsx...) and can fast full-text search on them. Oddly enough, that what a filesystem should do, but sadly that's not gonna happen.

Can grep and the like search on images or docx?

I know there is FileLocator Pro, but I'm looking for a cross-platform tool.

I mostly focus on text based content so PDF and webpages are easily supported. for PDFs I thought about using https://github.com/phiresky/ripgrep-all or pdfgrep https://pdfgrep.org/

For images, what do you want to grep for? for exif data -> https://exiftool.org/ if you want to find image based content, you might need something smarter. I think maybe it is a place where tools such as https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5 can shine for me. simple enough to work with most of my images and tag them according to some preferences, and I would save such tags in a txt file.

Anyway, all metadata I store about images, links etc are all persisted in txt files. summaries, tags, etc, incoming/outgoing links etc, each has its own file. There are folders per link/content. Under each folder, one file per type of metadata. So it is very easy to know if some metadata is missing for a file, no index needed, it is just as simple as checking the presence of a file. everything is compatible with grep then.

for docx and xlsx it is out of my plate at this time, I didn't experiment enough to judge what works well enough. I hate those things.

As docx / xlsx are zip files, I normally unzip them and then use some sort of XML-aware grep. But these formats are a rabbithole on their own ;)

Even if importing them they might remain stuck in some import queue and you might not be able to search them. That was a blocker for me https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586

I'm using Cloudron for 1.5 years and currently trying Yunohost and Coolify to try alternatives. But I gave up on Yunohost which felt too buggy and required too much workarounds and troubleshooting. I feel Coolify might be best for my needs but it's really for devs. Cloudron spoiled me so much everything else looks half baked.

Same here, I guess because I'm such a nerd, I have more affinities with like minded people that I often met at studies and at work. Other connections are fine but I'm not sharing the same dark humor and geek vibes with them. With WFH I still go to the office everyday and the people who I only see once a week seem too distant to me and we dont know each other very well.

Despite being a member of Lobsters for 5 years I've immediately disabled my account as soon as I felt the community becoming so hostile to brave users. I mean, I have no time to invest with a community that makes it so difficult to reach them and discuss any issue. Web is already painful enough.

Do you have a different username there? I couldn't find your account.

It's now inactive-user on lobsters but it does not matter much anymore. I had changed my username few times on Lobsters.

They've changed their username. It's visible in the log.

the linked discussion shows more and more comments posted by inactive-users so users that have disabled their profile in reaction to lobste.rs decision and decided to leave lobste.rs for more open communities. I wish the best to lobste.rs but clearly they do not fight the right battle here and just close doors. Too bad for them.