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Non-stocked by schools? That's literally what is happening.

Prevented to be stocked? Library removed?

What should we call it when you can legally acquire the book, read and share it with other people with no concern from the law or authorities whatsoever? Do you think the correct word for this is "banned"?


I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they are not "banned".

It's just so bizarre to make an argument (A very valid one!) about freedom of information by openly lying to the public.


"Book bans occur when those choices are overridden by school boards, administrators, teachers, or politicians, on the basis of a particular book’s content."

https://pen.org/book-bans/book-bans-frequently-asked-questio...


This feels like the laziest take.

Librarians and teachers choose books, then some external party forces them to be removed. If you don't like the term "banned", choose a term you like better.


Would you, as a school librarian, select a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people? Is this something you'd want kids to read?

> a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people?

Which book was that?


You can just buy your child these books if you really want them to read a Clockwork Orange

>I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they are not "banned"

You can look into it, if you're curious! Some of these books are indeed banned from schools (even if they want to stock it!), by state-level law no less! It's not a curation choice.


There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list? Or just that it's illegal for school libraries to stock it and/or include it in curricula?

>There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list?

Sorry, I'll edit my comment to be more clear. It is illegal for school libraries to stock it, even if they (teachers, the district, the parents, etc.) want it to be carried.

As a reminder for readers, the title of the article contains "in U.S. schools". It is probably a safe assumption to use that context for the comments in this thread.


In that case it would be better to say "banned from school libraries", because they are not banned in general.

We're talking about an article titled "The Most Banned Books _in U.S. Schools_", I thought the "in U.S. schools" part provided the context, but I suppose not.

> banned from school libraries

So, banned then?


>By "political correctness" people often mean "the basic requirement to treat your fellow humans respectfully", and that's an incredibly low bar.

I've gotta disagree. By "political correctness" people generally mean to not saying or doing anything that could be perceived as offensive. Especially against collectives perceived to be vulnerable.

For example, in the tiny paragraph above I've absolutely respected my fellow humans, but it can be considered offensive because you can suppose I might be looking to justify prejudiced attitudes.

For an even more evident example, political correctness has to do with the political climate and identity (as you mention: sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, or anything else, as well as referring to "those groups"). That is very much detached from treating fellow humans respectfully.


It's technically not inevitable, sure. What has to happen for this not to become the future though, and what are the odds of that happening?

The rational choice is to act as if this was ensured to be the future. If it ends up not being the case, enough people will have made that mistake that your failure will be minuscule in the grand scheme of things, and if it's not and this is the future, you won't be left behind.

Sure beats sticking your feet in the sand and most likely fucking up or perhaps being right in the end, standing between the flames.


There's an enormous difference in the government having channels allowing for the disclosing of private material to them and just giving them all of it from the get go, and it is not unlike the difference of allowing the government to jail people and allowing it to arbitrarily jail people for life.

The difference is legislation, in both cases. Permissible data exchange between government services is legislatively encoded. Permissible sentences are legislatively encoded.

Since we don't see a whole lot of moderately healthy democracies arbitrarily jailing people for life, one might reasonably assume these sorts of controls work.


I'd disagree but either way throw another factor in: non-native speakers and cross-language usability.

If your software is in some language and you are looking at docs or a videotutorial or something in another language, it's often hard to translate specific terms, Icons don't change language. They also help if you have to do something in another machine that uses a different language for some reason.


I concur that the icons aren't just decoration. I have sat down many times in a foreign country at a computer with localized settings and felt quite helpless to do even trivial things.

The rest of the world is the one thing that gives me hope in this regard, really.

It feels like year by year, Asia, even China, is becoming more and more culturally relevant. Western media is just too damn stagnant.

Hollywood used to be known as possibly the most important cultural powerhouse history has seen. It might still be that, but it certainly doesn't feel like it anymore.

Or maybe I'm just getting old.


China rising should not comfort anyone except Xi. They are all about raw power.

> year by year, Asia, even China, is becoming more and more culturally relevant

And powerful export sectors.


Based on what culture exactly? Can you name a single Chinese worldwide hit movie or TV show from the last 12 months?

I can think of only Korean Squid Game and a few Japanese anime shows that are somewhat successful.

Do Chinese movies even get distributed into places like India, Africa, South America as US produced stuff does?


Ne Zha 2 was huge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Zha_2

  Like its predecessor, the film received highly positive reviews from critics, and achieved even greater commercial success at a gross of $2.2 billion worldwide against a production budget of US$80 million.

  Ne Zha 2 broke numerous box office records inside and outside China, including becoming the highest-grossing film in a single box office territory, the highest-grossing animated film, being the first adult animated film in this position, the highest-grossing non-English language film and the first animated film in history to cross the $2 billion mark, as well as being the highest-selling animated film based on ticket sales.

  It also ranks as the highest-grossing film of 2025 and the fifth-highest-grossing film of all time.
and that immediately sprang to mind for a 60+ Australian english speaking mathematician / geophysicist not of asian descent. No Google / Bing / AI required.

Having grandchildren made it hard to avoid.

As for China in Africa:

  Global power dynamics in Africa are shifting, with China eclipsing the influence of the US and France. China has become Africa’s single largest trading partner. 
is true, but has been overstated by some to raise fear of Red Menace.

Source: https://theconversation.com/maps-showing-chinas-growing-infl...

FWiW China has been a significant employer of US mercs in Africa.

eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Services_Group


No for everybody it won't. Not to even mention the waste.

No one can force you to watch ads, they're your eyeballs. There will always be a solution to this problem; if it's in your domicile then no one can stop you from spending time coming up with solutions

It's a fridge. We are not talking a server, a raspberry pi, a phone, we are talking about a fridge.

Do you want to talk to my 70 year old father about how he should come up with solutions to ads on his fridge? Yes he can grab a garbage bag and some tape, we can all probably agree that the day stuff like that is commonplace we have very, VERY evidently failed as a society when it comes to dealing with this specific issue.


“Ma’am we’re not going to do anything about that flasher. No one can force you to look at him, they're your eyeballs.”

"Officer, take that ugly man away, we don't want to have to look at him"

Don’t confuse things we can change with things we can’t.

People are born naked, there's nothing inherently wrong with being naked unless there's something inherently wrong with being a person.

>Is political correctness necessary to have a thriving community / open source project?

Not at all, but this reads like childishness rather than political correctness.


>for example in Dota2 it doesen't matter how fast you click an entity, because the turnrate of your character is limited, so a person clicking reasonably fast and a bot clicking in 0.01ms both arrive there at the same time. Precision also doesn't matter, because a player can click the icon of the enemy instead of trying to match the pixels on screen.

Even with turnrate, reaction time is very relevant. Reaction time allows you to silence enemies midcast, or to pop a shield, or a BKB, or some other instant measure. Turnrate doesn't mean reaction time doesn't matter, it means the direction you are facing matters.

As for precision, yes it does matter, ask any Phoenix player who gets hexed mid-flight.

People cheat in Dota in these very terms, it's absurd to argue it doesn't matter.


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