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A “reasonable person” in a cockpit is not the same as a “reasonable person” behind the steering wheel.

Pilots undergo rigorous training with exam after exam they must pass.

No one is handed the keys to a Boeing 747 after some weekly evening course and an hours driving test.


I don't mean a reasonable pilot. Would a reasonable person expect autopilot in a plane prevents a plane from crashing into something that the pilot was accelerating towards while physically overriding the controls. The claim is that autopilot should not have been able to crash even with the driver actively overriding it and accelerating into that crash.

To me, it's reasonable to assume that the "autopilot" in a car I drive (especially back in 2019) is going to defer to any input override that I provide. I wouldn't want it any other way.


I love this optimistic take.

Unfortunately, I believe the following will happen: By positioning themselves close to law makers, the AI companies will in the near future declare ownership of all software code developed using their software.

They will slowly erode their terms of service, as happens to most internet software, step by step, until they claim total ownership.

The point is to license the code.


> AI companies will in the near future declare ownership of all software code developed using their software.

(X) Doubt

Copyright law is WEEEEEEIRRRDD and our in-house lawyer is very much into that, personally and professionally. An example they gave us during a presentation:

A monkey took a selfie of itself in 2011. We still don't know who has the copyright to that image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...

IIRC the latest resolution is "it's not the monkey", but nobody has ruled the photographer has copyright either. =)

Copyright law has this thing called "human authorship" that's required to apply copyright to a work. Animals and machines can't have a copyright to anything.

A second example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarya_of_the_Dawn

A comic generated with Midjourney had its copyright revoked when it was discovered all of the art was done with Generative AI.

AI companies have absolutely mindboggling amounts of money, but removing the human authorship requirement from copyright is beyond even them in my non-lawyer opinion. It would bring the whole system crashing down and not in a fun way for anyone.


> the AI companies will in the near future declare ownership of all software code developed using their software.

Pretty sure this isn’t going to happen. AI is driving the cost of software to zero; it’s not worth licensing something that’s a commodity.

It’s similar to 3D printing companies. They don’t have IP claims on the items created with their printers.

The AI companies currently don’t have IP claims on what their agents create.

Uncle Joe won’t need to pay OpenAI for the solitaire game their AI made for him.

The open source models are quite capable; in the near future there won’t be a meaningful difference for the average person between a frontier model and an open source one for most uses including creating software.


1. Commodities are huge business.

2. Show me these open source models that cost me $20/month to operate, because that’s what I pay for ChatGPT/Claude.

3. This is not at all similar to “3D printing”.

4. Nobody cares about some solitaire game


AFAIK you can't copyright AI generated content. I don't know where that gets blurry when it's mixed in with your own content (ie, how much do you need to modify it to own it), but I think that by that definition these companies couldn't claim your code at all. Also, with the lawsuit that happened to Anthropic where they had to pay billions for ingesting copyrighted content, it might actually end up working the other way around.

This is incorrect. IN the older world, you would not say intelligence autocompleted code was not copyrightable. Agentic code is the same on steroids. The strong argument: It's absolutely auto completed code for the prompter, and hence fully copyright-able by them.

Why do you assume this?

I can produce total jibberish even faster, doesn’t mean I produce Einstein level thought if I slow down


Better models already exist, this is just proving you can dramatically increase inference speeds / reduce inference costs.

It isn't about model capability - it's about inference hardware. Same smarts, faster.


Not what he said.

I was making HTML pages as a 9 year old in the mid 90s.

It was never hard.


I would love this if it wasn’t clear that due to the configuration of our economic system this technology will be used against humanity and in favor of the demons who rule the planet.

But you are ignoring the substantial difference between previous technical revolutions, this time technology not replacing a mechanical operation.

No, it was a car company.

No it was a financial operation living off electric vehicle credit sales

I don’t know who Yudkiwsky is, but he surely didn’t invent any “AI doom”

Here’s an interesting article by Bill Joy of BSD, SUN, JAVA, Vi, etc, etc fame:

https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/


This is great news!

Slava Ukraini!


You are thinking about this as a reasonable, compassionate human being who is at the very least neutral toward your fellow man’s well being.

The psychos who run the show don’t think like that. Many of them enjoy abusing other people.

They will wall themselves off with their robots with instructions to kill to control the masses.

Unless, power is given to the people through widespread (direct-)democratic reform, urgently.


I wish it was just psychos with power that are causing these issues. It's worse than that I think. It's the competition based systems of human organization that will result in what you're describing.

Even if people in one country manage to get rid of the psychos and give power back to the people, the countries that continue at full speed to full automation of the economy and the military will just win the competition over resources and power. For as long as our economic system and the systems that govern relationships between countries are based on competition, we are forced to continue on this path. The ones that choose not to will lose.

We would need to quickly build systems based on cooperation instead of competition if we want to avoid a disaster. No more markets, no more competing nation states. Probably an impossible task considering we don't have much time left before we have automated systems that make it impossible for people to take back control from the owners of those systems.


I believe you are fundamentally wrong.

I believe decentralized, democratic systems(not the sham imposed in most countries) are inherently _better_ systems than autocratic rule, and will produce better rules for the whole.

Competition is good, but must be done by rules enforced by the global community.


Could be, if we can come up with efficient ways to govern using direct democracy that lead to better decisions than what we now have. I don't see much work being done to come up with such a system, though.

Already implemented in Switzerland.

What they do there is not enough. All decisions should be made using some form of direct democracy, otherwise you leave an opening for power concentration again, which will lead to the same problems we're now facing. We can't make all decisions using referendums.

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