I wanted to order one of these and then Qualcomm cancelled it.
Then I knew Windows ARM probably wasn't going to make it. Why any technical person would want a PC( not including Macs)that explicitly can't run Linux I'll never know.
Technical person that knows UNIX since being introduced to it via Xenix in 1993, and has used plenty of UNIX flavours since then.
Some of us like the experience of Visual Studio, being able to do graphics development with modern graphics APIs that don't require a bazillion of code lines, with debuggers, not having to spend weekends trying to understand why yet again YouTube videos are not being hardware accelerated, scout for hardware that is supposed to work and then fails because the new firmaware update is no longer compatible,....
Your comment appears to address the question "why use Windows" (even though the answer doesn't really make sense to me), but that's not the question asked in GP. The question was "Why buy a Windows on ARM device"
PCs aren't vertically integrated from a single vendor, and thus it isn't as if Microsoft alone can drag a whole ecosystem into ARM, even if the emulation would work out great.
Windows NT was also multi-architecture, and eventually all variants died, because x86 was good enough, and when Itanium came to be, AMD got a workaround to keep x86 going forward.
Even gaming doesn't work that great on Windows ARM.
They have the Surface line and own tons of game studios.
Where are the Gamepass games with Arm ?
Microsoft if they wanted to fund it right could get popular 3rd party software ported.
In retrospect it was hopelessly naive, but I even emailed Qualcomm asking if I could have a dev kit in exchange for porting one of my hobbyist games. They basically said thank you for asking but we don't have a program for this.
Now hypothetically let's say there was a Qualcomm Snapdragon Linux laptop. I could just port the code myself for most applications I actually need
These devkits are old and have already been released to consumer laptops over a year ago. So if you want to you can pick up pretty much any CoPilot+ PC. I'm not sure what your problem here is though.
Tuxedo is a german company relabling Clevo Laptops so far, which work out-of-the-box pretty good (I might say perfect in some cases) on Linux. They have done ZILCH, NADA, absolute nothing for Linux, besides promoting it as a brand. So now they took a snapdragon laptop, installed linux and are disappointed by the performance....Great test, tremendous work! Asahi Linux showed if you put in the work you can have awesome performance.
Yes but having to reverse engineer an entire platform from scratch is a big ask, and even with asahi it's taken many years and isn't up to snuff. Not to say anything of the team, they're truly miracle workers considering what they've been given to work with.
But it's been the same story with ARM on windows now for at least a decade. The manufacturers just... do not give a single fuck. ARM is not comparable to x86 and will never be if ARM manufacturers continue to sabotage their own platform. It's not just Linux, either, these things are barely supported on Windows, run a fraction of the software, and don't run for very long. Ask anyone burned by ARM on windows attempts 1-100.
> if you put in the work you can have awesome performance.
Then why would I pay money for a Qualcomm device just for more suffering? Unless I personally like tinkering or I am contributing to an open source project specifically for this, there is no way I would purchase a Qualcomm PC.
The original comment was "explicitly can't run Linux" which is explicitly not true. Not "it's not fully baked" or "it's not good", but a categorically unambiguously false claim of "explicitly can't run Linux" as if it was somehow firmware banned from doing so.
My flow is GitHub issues+ GitHub Copilot+ Web Deployments from GitHub actions.
I can just ask GitHub to fix something from the mobile app, and then set it to build on PR merge. It works most of the time, but you'd have to be absolutely wacky to do it in production or with any code you actually care about
I probably use YouTube more than any other website, for about 10 minutes my premium subscription had expired and u rushed to throw money at Google to turn it back on.
Musicians complain about low streaming payouts, but 30 years ago I'd pay $40 ( inflation adjusted) for 15 songs and only like 3 of them.
Now I can listen to 500 or 600 unique songs a month + music that would of had to be imported for that 15$.
If I actually like an artist I'll buy an album as a keepsake.
I fear the same thing but then people that know more about this say that these GLP-1 drugs have been used for many years (by diabetics) so they aren't untested or un-studied.
Literally from the Wikipedia article: “In 2002, Eli Lilly partnered with Amylin to develop exenatide and secure approval to market the drug. Exenatide's 2005 approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration showed that targeting the GLP-1 receptor was a viable strategy and inspired other pharmaceutical companies to focus on that receptor” [1].
There is a minor risk that a new drug causes cancer or something. However, obesity is a major risk for very large amount of health problems, including many cancers.
Obesity has a known, well established, multi-modal cancer risk, and then on top add metabolic syndrome (T2, heart disease, etc).
So, you're weighing a hypothetical risk against and establish risk, and concluding that the unknown risk is scarier than the known risk. Which is irrational.
Imagine if someone asks you if you want to take the "obesity pill," and you looked at the side effects objectively. But instead you weight obesity as "normal" and this as "new and scary."
To be completely honest I don't 100% trust the medical industry whenever there's so much money behind marketing something. There's a very real vested interest in trying to downplay the risk factors because let's just say tomorrow they found out this stuff makes all your teeth fall out.
A whole lot of folks would lose billions of dollars. My first instinct is to think I need to go and take another Europe. The food is better there and I lost a good amount of weight the first time.
Understood. You may be interested to learn that Liraglutide, a GLP-1 Agonist, has been commercially available and commonly used since 2010 (15-years+) without any unknown/unexpected additional side-effects appearing. It was developed in 1998.
The main reason GLP-1 Agonists are suddenly more popular is two things:
- Liraglutide had to be taken daily, instead of weekly.
- Nobody every paid for Liraglutide to be clinically approved for weight-loss. It was an anti-diabetic medication; but the mechanism of action is the same.
Compared with liraglutide, semaglutide was engineered mainly with a longer, differently attached fatty-acid side chain that increases albumin binding and slows clearance, so it lasts longer; both drugs activate the GLP-1 receptor.
Nah, you'll just be on it for the rest of your life. Drug companies prefer chronic illnesses since they cannot be cured, and recipients take the drug for life. All these hormones (GLP, testosterones, hrt) will need to be taken forever. Very few people come off GLP-1 and keep weight off.
I mean, obesity is a chronic illness, so is hypogonadism. If your balls don't work they don't work.
Chronic illnesses require chronic medication. The same is true even WITHOUT the medication. If you're obese and want to lose the weight, you need to manage your diet and exercise. Forever. Until the day you die. You can't ever stop that or you'll be obese again.
Some things just don't have one-time solutions, and that's okay.
Gilead has made bank on Solvadi, a drug that cures a previously-chronic disease [1].
> Very few people come off GLP-1 and keep weight off
Rebound can be close to 100% if you’re severely obese, but for most people it’s much less [2]. (Everyone I know who was taking it two years ago is off it, and they eat and exercise healthier than they did.)
Yeah my first reaction was, what the heck is is this ?
Now I can imagine having specific campaigns. Let's say they need $50,000 to release an upgraded port of Shining Force.
Cool, I might be open to pre-ordering it at $25 so they can see if there's enough interest to proceed. But why am I going to literally just donate to a private company. I think the entire world has gone mad, there's not even a real product here. It's not like for that $5 a month they give you a random game or something. They just want money.
I would be happy to donate to campaigns to buy old ip (video games, but also music, movies, old tabletop rpgs etc) to then slap an open license on and release for free. Seems like a good investment for the future, to get as much content as possible away from rights hoarders.
I am also happy to buy more old games from GOG than I ever have the time to play, so they already get my money.
If I want to see a movie, I see a movie. If I want to travel, I travel.
Now with my last vacation I happened to be on the same continent as a long term friend who I hadn't seen in very long time. We met up, and it was like we were hanging out in college again.
But I had a great time traveling solo before that.
If you have the mentality that you need to be around your friends constantly you'll never try anything new.
I believe once( this is an urban legend) a manufacturer in a middle income country considered going with Linux to save money and Microsoft flew out a sales rep next day to put a stop to it.
Microsoft likes it when you get a "deal" and buy a pro key for 10$. Whatever, you'll subscribe to half a dozen Microwave services ideally paying them 30$ to 40$ a month forever.
The last thing they want is you to try Linux.
However, I had the joy of watching multiple Linux desktop environments crash when I switched to my Bluetooth headphones.
Cinnamon and Budgie both crashed. No one knows why. I had to switch to Mate and then spend another 20 minutes trying to get it look ok.
No typical user wants to deal with this. They'd assume Linux doesn't work and move on.
Some mornings when I wake my laptop from sleep, my USB webcam doesn't work. No matter how many times I plug and unplug, no dice. Sometimes the wifi just refuses to connect to my network. Only a full reboot fixes things.
Sometimes, while I do things on a browser, I get a BSOD, no warning.
Some mornings, usually when I left important work open and half finished the night before, my computer decides to do an update and all my open windows, tabs, reference documents etc are gone, as if someone came and cleared my workbench mid project and now I need to set up all my shit again from scratch.
My personal laptop is a 10 year old POS thinkpad T-something with Linux Mint. Biggest issue is I forget to properly shut it down, and to plug it in every now and then, and the shot battery runs down. Admittedly, the bluetooth is sometimes a little iffy, but I've spent 0 effort trying to resolve it. I just open the lid, and my computer is ready for me. Boots up in an instant and always in the state I left it in (unless I let the battery run down).
My new, modern, high spec, high ram, high-res laptop is easily an order of magnitude more frustrating to use than my linux shitbox laptop.
I quit my job, and bought the laptop from the company. It's getting a wipe this weekend and some flavour of linux, and the wife is getting it as a belated christmas gift. She's due an upgrade, and I decided she's ready to move to linux now.
Windows tends to be a black box. It works or not. Your options to fix a bad Windows install are usually reinstalling or hoping the next update fixes it..
However, on average Windows has less issues with compatibility, particularly on newer hardware. I had a laptop that had a brand new chip, and I pre ordered it so it arrived before the Linux support did.
I could never get Linux to work correctly. It eventually failed for unrelated reasons.
You have to test Linux on your hardware the day you get it. Some laptops will never work with Linux. You can argue the hardware oems are to blame, but that doesn't fix anything.
I'm actually hoping to get a really cheap used Thinkpad soon and experiment with Nix.
>I believe once( this is an urban legend) a manufacturer in a middle income country considered going with Linux to save money and Microsoft flew out a sales rep next day to put a stop to it.
non urban legend: Munich migrated whole city (15K computers) to Linux saving millions. Microsoft moved their German HQ to Munich to win back the contract, and year later city announced removing linux and going back to windows.
I'm using Fedora with KDE Plasma, and at this point I can assure you that I run into more annoyances with Windows than Fedora
Linux has the reputation of being buggy and hard to fix, so some people don't put any effort in finding the solution, but windows has its fair share of issues too.
The problem is with Linux you have a bunch of different "fixes". I like Cinnamon. I've used desktop Linux for a long time. I have no idea how to fix this aside from switching to Mate.
You have almost unlimited permutations of different distros, kernels, etc. Which combination will work for you ?
No one knows. Will the next kernel update bring relief? I will say when you get a Linux system working, it's the most productive experience you can have. Microsoft isn't constantly begging for more money.
It's not like Windows hasn't had a slew of bullshit like this over the years. Especially around audio and peripherals. It still changes my default headphones every time I log in, doesn't recognise my standard audio interface, it's a crapshoot if my USB devices are all recognised every boot.
Then I knew Windows ARM probably wasn't going to make it. Why any technical person would want a PC( not including Macs)that explicitly can't run Linux I'll never know.
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